Drop Rates Question

Hi there,

Question for Game or anybody that have deeper knowledge then me of the mechanics of the game.

Does Magic Find and/or the number of character in a game affect the following drop rate :

- Keys (Countess, Summoner, Nih)
- Frags
- Essences
- Enchant Scrolls
- Trag Map, Puzzle box, Tyrael Key
- Puzzle box from DL
- Specific Unique Drop from each super boss
- Cow Set from Inferno Cow queen/chest/cows
- Runes

So, is those drop rates Fixed or you can higher your chances ?

Thanks.

Based of my expiriense, i can say mf doesnt affect on all of these items

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Originally Posted by daxvid

Hi there,

Question for Game or anybody that have deeper knowledge then me of the mechanics of the game.

Does Magic Find and/or the number of character in a game affect the following drop rate :

- Keys (Countess, Summoner, Nih) 1/10 - 1/15 increases with number of players
- Frags 1/10 increases with number of players
- Essences Don't remember, but higher drop rate than frags, scales with number of players
- Enchant Scrolls doesn't appear to be effected by mf
- Trag Map, Puzzle box, Tyrael Key unknown, but seems to be higher when horking (using find item)
- Puzzle box from DL I've never quite understood this. Its 1/10 for a boss-specific drop of which there are usually at least 3 per boss. So it's somewhere between 1/10 and 1/30
- Specific Unique Drop from each super boss need more specifics here
- Cow Set from Inferno Cow queen/chest/cows Not sure but I think this one may scale by mf
- Runes same as normal bnet as far as I know, scales with number of playes in game

So, is those drop rates Fixed or you can higher your chances ?

Thanks.

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- Specific Unique Drop from each super boss need more specifics here :
Diablo Lord of Terror
Butcher
Skeleton King
Mappo
Otuyeg
SSSAAhh
Khalut
Lich King
Avatar of Azatoth
cow queen
K'narr
Mechanical Machine
Ifritz
Sewer King?

Sorry for the spelling :P

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- Specific Unique Drop from each super boss need more specifics here :
Diablo Lord of Terror 1/10 for anni and other thing, 1/100 - 1/5000 for flaming sword, not sure exactly
Butcher 1/10
Skeleton King 1/10
Mappo same as puzzle box for all dreamland bosses, see puzzle box explanation in previous quote, cthulu items are 1/100 see this post for dreamlands full drop list http://annihilus.net/showthread.php?t=8111
Otuyeg
SSSAAhh
Khalut
Lich King 1/10 for boot, belt, dagger - I think its somewhere between 1/100 - 1/1000 for frostmourne, not sure exactly
Avatar of Azatoth not sure what the drop rate for caches is, I think its like 1/2 or 1/3
cow queen not sure
K'narst 1/100 for ribcage
Mechanical Machine 1/100 i think for short circlet, not sure
Ifritznot sure, I think same as machine and sewer guy
Sewer King? 1/100 I think for alkor charm
Sorry for the spelling :P

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So, all of these are not affected by MF or the number of character in game right?

All of them except cow queen are not effected by mf. Cow queen might but, but I am not sure about that one. I'm not sure about the chests either. As for player number, I think its the same as with keys/frags. The drop rate is higher if there are more players in game. That being said it usually isn't worth it to take on the harder bosses with a lot of players in game. With the exception of Cow Queen, if its in a special area that isnt on normal bnet, its generally more efficient to do it on players 1 (if soloing) in my experience. Although I'd be curious if anyone else has any suggestions on the optimal number of toons to have in game when soloing the higher difficulty bosses.

i'd say 3-4 loaders is optimal

Magic Find doesn't affect anything in your list at all. All Magic Find does is when an item type drops, it decides if it is white, magic, rare, set, or unique. The more Magic Find you have, the higher the chances of it being more than just a white / blue. Since the special boss items / puzzle boxes etc are set to ALWAYS be unique, set, or whatever, Magic Find will not affect these. Runes are always white, so similar situation for them. Magic Find is good in just about every area except for bosses that have a specific loot table designated.

As for people discussing the player count affecting things, it can affect things that can drop from every monster (given the monster is high enough level). Meaning, player count can increase the chance you get a rune, puzzlebox, and enchantment. It will not help on boss specific uniques / sets.

Thank you for the clarification!

Dax