Mephisto's Gold has been reset.

[Game]

Due to so many people requesting it, I have decided to remove Mephisto's Gold. I will make him start over from scratch so he can re-earn his Gold all over again, so nobody has any right to complain. You win, I don't want to hear anymore about it!

[Mephisto]

Ill be back to 300k in a couple days, its fine, let the trade begin!

[acyroma]

LOL

[Lampogriz]

lol why delete all his gold? that's so stupid

[Drlukifer]

Now would be a good time to suggest a cap on gold, forcing players to recirculate currency instead of just hoarding, helping the community of the server, and not just someone starting a bank.

Cap at 200k gold = High runes keep their dignity, and will still be tradable

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac157/drlukifer/99c_zpsp5lyqakr.jpg (http://s895.photobucket.com/user/drlukifer/media/99c_zpsp5lyqakr.jpg.html)

[rrra]

This is so dumb lol. Maybe its a good April fools joke. Either way, he'll be back on top soon enough lol

[RevanDarth]

Now i feel its an April joke :D

[Savior]

This must be an April fools joke...

Or at least if it isn't... Mephisto should be getting something in return for losing his gold.

[sleezy2]

Its totally an april fools joke, based on everyone trash talking his need for the shinny shinny and willing to do anything for it. just wait mephisto will be offering hummers on trade forum soon.

[Mephisto]

Damn, sleezy ur goldcount is bigger then me, and so is ur signature! Time to open ur eyes :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aRor905cCw

[Snowish]

WTF , seriously? If this is a joke its a good one if its true its major bullshit :/

[pulse37]

Buying anni, offer 350k gold

[Mephisto]

Buying anni, offer 350k gold

t4t

[StenchTrench]

The fact that you are both making a joke out of something that has quite obviously had a negative impact on the community after falsely accusing me of harassing Joe just goes to show that your loyalties lie with what is best for Joe and yourself and not what is best for the server and the individuals who are devoting their time and money to it. All this does is make that biased light shine brighter than ever, and open everyone elses eyes to what is really going on. Bravo.

[Savior]

The fact that you are both making a joke out of something that has quite obviously had a negative impact on the community after falsely accusing me of harassing Joe just goes to show that your loyalties lie with what is best for Joe and yourself and not what is best for the server and the individuals who are devoting their time and money to it. All this does is make that biased light shine brighter than ever, and open everyone elses eyes to what is really going on. Bravo.

Don't worry about it and don't let it get to you, just try to play and have fun. :)

[Bloop]

t4t

wow you made 340k back so fast

must be exploiting etc etc

<3


The fact that you are both making a joke out of something that has quite obviously had a negative impact on the community after falsely accusing me of harassing Joe just goes to show that your loyalties lie with what is best for Joe and yourself and not what is best for the server and the individuals who are devoting their time and money to it. All this does is make that biased light shine brighter than ever, and open everyone elses eyes to what is really going on. Bravo.

I actually disagree, the only "negative impacts" I've seen regarding this whole situation is purely people having a negative attitude toward someone elses success. If you want to take the stance that mephisto has some huge advantage over everyone and it hurts other people you should try to take into consideration the 100 inferno cow organ sets that mephisto/snow have purchased from the community and then opened and let everyone join and take every single drop aside from the queen drops. And also consider the fact that this is all purely entertainment. None of us are feeding our family by playing this mod so if your only complaint is that someone else has more pixels than you then maybe you should ask for advice about how to attain wealth. Im sure mephisto would gladly share some tips because hes just a nice guy.

Im not trying to stomp on your nuts here im just trying to put things into perspective because its really easy for a human being to twist things in their mind and make themselves feel victimized. Im constantly trying to view the things I see going on from an unbiased viewpoint and trying to think about what would make things better for the community and if I notice mephisto getting special treatment I'll gladly raise hell about it with you guys. So for now the best thing for the community would be for people to relax and try to get along and have some fun :D

[Game]

The fact that you are both making a joke out of something that has quite obviously had a negative impact on the community after falsely accusing me of harassing Joe just goes to show that your loyalties lie with what is best for Joe and yourself and not what is best for the server and the individuals who are devoting their time and money to it. All this does is make that biased light shine brighter than ever, and open everyone elses eyes to what is really going on. Bravo.

I am not going to punish Joe for making a lot of Gold, you are delusional. All this shows is you are someone who is dead set on trying to expose some sort of hidden agenda that simply isn't there. Move on and get over it, this is a video game.

[tears]

shit, how much for a hummer?

[Scorchz]

Pjsalt

[StenchTrench]

wow you made 340k back so fast

must be exploiting etc etc

<3



I actually disagree, the only "negative impacts" I've seen regarding this whole situation is purely people having a negative attitude toward someone elses success. If you want to take the stance that mephisto has some huge advantage over everyone and it hurts other people you should try to take into consideration the 100 inferno cow organ sets that mephisto/snow have purchased from the community and then opened and let everyone join and take every single drop aside from the queen drops. And also consider the fact that this is all purely entertainment. None of us are feeding our family by playing this mod so if your only complaint is that someone else has more pixels than you then maybe you should ask for advice about how to attain wealth. Im sure mephisto would gladly share some tips because hes just a nice guy.

Im not trying to stomp on your nuts here im just trying to put things into perspective because its really easy for a human being to twist things in their mind and make themselves feel victimized. Im constantly trying to view the things I see going on from an unbiased viewpoint and trying to think about what would make things better for the community and if I notice mephisto getting special treatment I'll gladly raise hell about it with you guys. So for now the best thing for the community would be for people to relax and try to get along and have some fun :D

You must be new and unaware of the exploit that a few of the mods took advantage of. Perhaps you should get a better grasp of what the majorities concern is about before passing assumptions based upon ignorance to the situation.

[StenchTrench]

I am not going to punish Joe for making a lot of Gold, you are delusional. All this shows is you are someone who is dead set on trying to expose some sort of hidden agenda that simply isn't there. Move on and get over it, this is a video game.

The agenda isn't hidden. Everyone knows that Joe and another mod took advantage of an exploit. Everyone also know that you accused me of harassment without factual evidence to back up said claims. Everyone also knows that when you don't agree with someones opinion, you close threads and power trip instead of having a factual argument. There is nothing to expose, the truth is already out there. I never asked for anyone to be punished because of the amount of gold they have. And the only thing that I am dead set on is honesty and integrity. But go ahead and keep closing threads because you don't like hearing an opinion. Ban me from discord because you don't like hearing the truth. True colors shine the brightest when one has exhausted their excuses.

[acyroma]

You must be new and unaware of the exploit that a few of the mods took advantage of. Perhaps you should get a better grasp of what the majorities concern is about before passing assumptions based upon ignorance to the situation.

So i've been running private servers with Game for just about 10 years. Bloop was the one who introduced me to private servers to begin with. He is not unaware at all, he just has a different opinion than you do.

[Bloop]

You must be new and unaware of the exploit that a few of the mods took advantage of. Perhaps you should get a better grasp of what the majorities concern is about before passing assumptions based upon ignorance to the situation.

Maybe you're right. Maybe not. Either way I hope you have a wonderful day :D

[Game]

The agenda isn't hidden. Everyone knows that Joe and another mod took advantage of an exploit. Everyone also know that you accused me of harassment without factual evidence to back up said claims. Everyone also knows that when you don't agree with someones opinion, you close threads and power trip instead of having a factual argument. There is nothing to expose, the truth is already out there. I never asked for anyone to be punished because of the amount of gold they have. And the only thing that I am dead set on is honesty and integrity. But go ahead and keep closing threads because you don't like hearing an opinion. Ban me from discord because you don't like hearing the truth. True colors shine the brightest when one has exhausted their excuses.

It's been a long time since I seen someone like you, so hypocritical and so self-righteous. Me and Acyroma both asked to see this condemning screenshot of yours. I've also explained to you twice that diablo clone's mechanic isn't an exploit, you say it is because it is a "flaw" but again, it is not a flaw, but there's no way your self-righteousness is wrong is there, even if I have repeated time and time again that this is a setting / feature in the config (http://i.imgur.com/DzP8YIP.png) and not a bug in the code. Here's my screenshot, where is yours? I am nothing BUT integrity when it comes to this server. What are you? I never once banned you from Discord, but yet here is mister high and mighty who is always 100% right making another false accusation. I did close the poll thread I made because I said I have made up my mind to not add gold trading and the discussion was closed, yet you kept going on and on instead of dropping it. You made another thread because you absolutely refused to read my post fully in the previous thread, even though you linked directly to it.

It is very likely you just skim this post too then make another post about how I have been exposed and you are this beaming light of hope for Annihilus exposing evil little me. You even make passive aggressive comments towards someone who didn't agree with you just because his join date, yet he's been in the community before you even thought about joining us. You keep saying all of this stuff about me but everything you're saying I am doing is actually the actions of yourself.

[Vorpvp]

https://images.discordapp.net/.eJwNyEEOhCAMAMC_8ABKG6zibwgSNKuUQM0eNvt3neP8zN1Ps 5pdtY0VYDtGkr7ZodJjybaIlDPHdgyb5IKoGtN-5aoDKDi_EHMgDLNHDvzW7KcFCR1NSOwdwl0_Vb7VtlrM_wEIgi Lb.nqo85FlBbYQUiIiZHsF8cyJcUew?width=721&height=543

There's the SS. Two of your admins were in on it and the 2nd lied about even knowing about it after Revan said, "I think it was you who told us that it couldn't"

Game

Regardless of whether the agenda is there or not it seems to be there if you look at it on an outside perspective.

EDIT: Pinged Vav

[Game]

https://images.discordapp.net/.eJwNyEEOhCAMAMC_8ABKG6zibwgSNKuUQM0eNvt3neP8zN1Ps 5pdtY0VYDtGkr7ZodJjybaIlDPHdgyb5IKoGtN-5aoDKDi_EHMgDLNHDvzW7KcFCR1NSOwdwl0_Vb7VtlrM_wEIgi Lb.nqo85FlBbYQUiIiZHsF8cyJcUew?width=721&height=543

There's the SS. Two of your admins were in on it and the 2nd lied about even knowing about it after Revan said, "I think it was you who told us that it couldn't"

Game

Regardless of whether the agenda is there or not it seems to be there if you look at it on an outside perspective.

EDIT: Pinged Vav

Lol WHAT? This is the screenshot that is supposed to prove something? First off neither player is admins, or has anything to do with decisions made with the server such as Diablo Clone being a single game or server wide. That would be like me confirming Diablo 4 will be announced this year, and people actually taking it to heart. Secondly, this screenshot says day1-2 of the reset, the first serverwide walk was 2 weeks in. And again, a clan preparing for a serverwide walk is completely fine, infact im sure many groups of people have done it in the past seasons, telling their friends they're going to walk the whole server so they can make some games. Also when the "Sold to merchants" message starts appearing people had several minutes to start making their own games if they wanted, like I said it was 2 weeks in so people had plenty of hell characters. Everyone who was online that day got MINIMUM 1 free annihilus, it wasnt like they all flew to Joe. This would be one thing if it was two staff members abusing an actual exploit like a dupe or something, but you guys are trying to make something a crime that isn't a crime. I see no agenda here, this screenshot was really disappointing I really expected something more incriminating, especially the way Gothix acted like it would end the server.

[Vorpvp]

Walker isn't an admin? Eric Walker? Apollo?

Also, not hard to change plans from day 1-2 to week 2. Especially since people weren't strong enough to do it efficiently.

[Game]

Walker isn't an admin? Eric Walker? Apollo?

Also, not hard to change plans from day 1-2 to week 2. Especially since people weren't strong enough to do it efficiently.

Being a moderator is NOT an administrator. Acyroma and I are only admins. And my point still stands, this is nothing incriminating? This is planning a diablo clone walk.. it's been done for years.

[Bloop]

Walker isn't an admin? Eric Walker? Apollo?

Also, not hard to change plans from day 1-2 to week 2. Especially since people weren't strong enough to do it efficiently.

The only person I can see incriminating in this whole situation is POSSIBLY the person who told people that walking nl soulstones wasnt possible. Even then it could have just been them assuming it wasnt possible. And with that being said, If you found a way to profit easily and told me it didnt work nothing would be done to you even though we are friends at this point and morality would lean towards helping your friends out. Im not saying you've done this I just dont see the need to get all up in arms too much about it. I personally do feel that staff should be expected to be more generous and honest than the regular player base but honestly they are just regular players with a few more responsibilities than the regular players so if you chose to trust a player who probably knows less than you about d2, that seems like you made a bad decision. Sorry chef you know I love ya man. Im pissed at myself for not joining in on this cuz i know how anni walks work and should have done it. So next time lets jsut ask alex or andy if something is possible and get an accurate answer and problem solved :D

[Vorpvp]

I'll tell you the same as I told others Bloop, it was my first week or two when I was told this, at the end of last ladder. These were also people that helped me. I trusted them, and it was proven false. I'm pissed that I was lied to. And vav kept asking for the screenshot so I sent it. And sure, there's a difference between mods and admins here, but as a general rule staff is usually to be trusted but when a staff member lies about something it's kind of an issue in my book. Not saying he's the one who told me it wouldn't work, but he did flat out lie about not knowing about it.

[Bloop]

I'll tell you the same as I told others Bloop, it was my first week or two when I was told this, at the end of last ladder. These were also people that helped me. I trusted them, and it was proven false. I'm pissed that I was lied to. And vav kept asking for the screenshot so I sent it. And sure, there's a difference between mods and admins here, but as a general rule staff is usually to be trusted but when a staff member lies about something it's kind of an issue in my book. Not saying he's the one who told me it wouldn't work, but he did flat out lie about not knowing about it.

Id be pissed if I was lied to as well. I think anyone can relate to that. If this staff member thing works out you can definitely bet I will be pushing for the staff to be held to a ridiculously high standard. It's one of the reasons I applied in the first place. As of right now we all just have to accept that mephisto is rich as fuck and have some fun :D you feel me?

[RevanDarth]

Bloop is right in every way, Alex said gold wont be tradeable, what happened with anni's wont happen again, its time to move on and have some fun. Can't wait for the new patch to come, wanna make a crazy Chaos rw. So guys just so you know, everything Alex did was for the community, i dont see a point in arguing over things that are already done. Its a game, someone has to be on top!

[StenchTrench]

https://images.discordapp.net/.eJwNyEEOhCAMAMC_8ABKG6zibwgSNKuUQM0eNvt3neP8zN1Ps 5pdtY0VYDtGkr7ZodJjybaIlDPHdgyb5IKoGtN-5aoDKDi_EHMgDLNHDvzW7KcFCR1NSOwdwl0_Vb7VtlrM_wEIgi Lb.nqo85FlBbYQUiIiZHsF8cyJcUew?width=721&height=543

There's the SS. Two of your admins were in on it and the 2nd lied about even knowing about it after Revan said, "I think it was you who told us that it couldn't"

Game

Regardless of whether the agenda is there or not it seems to be there if you look at it on an outside perspective.

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Oh hey look! Honesty. Imagine that. And you did in fact ban me from discord. The problem here isn't the amount of gold that Joe has amassed, it's the method for which he did so. Just because something is part of a games "code" doesn't make it right to do if it damages the economy and upsets the server as a whole. Duping is in the code. Are we allowed to do it? No. Rolling back games is in the code. Hey let's do that too! The biggest reason why people are upset is due to your (and Joe's) inability to accept blame and apologize for your actions. It's clear that the majority of the server is angry, and you do nothing but dodge and deflect and make excuses.

[StenchTrench]

I'll tell you the same as I told others Bloop, it was my first week or two when I was told this, at the end of last ladder. These were also people that helped me. I trusted them, and it was proven false. I'm pissed that I was lied to. And vav kept asking for the screenshot so I sent it. And sure, there's a difference between mods and admins here, but as a general rule staff is usually to be trusted but when a staff member lies about something it's kind of an issue in my book. Not saying he's the one who told me it wouldn't work, but he did flat out lie about not knowing about it.

And finally someone who understands the clear issue here. Integrity and honesty.

[vaudeville]

I thought I might lean a little toward your case Gothix, but it's pretty hard to do so when I can't possibly see how or why Game would benefit by favoring Joe et. al over everyone else or at the very least being indifferent to how they exploit the game.

If it's so obvious, people would either be in pitch-forks and riot (which sort of looks like that's going on) or they'd say ok good luck getting someone to contribute to the server. In other words, it's self-defeating.

Still I definitely do think the exploitation inadvertently or not really mucks up the economy and usually for the worse for all other players, but there's not much you can do at some point when it comes to the economy here. That's why I didn't bother voting or making an opinion on the subscription thread, because I'm not convinced that will do really anything to "equal the playing field" by any stretch of the margin. People play longer than others, contribute more money than others, play smarter than others, or get inside tips than others (not going to elaborate on this nor put up with dissent that this doesn't go on). It ain't much different from the real-world.

[Game]

Oh hey look! Honesty. Imagine that. And you did in fact ban me from discord. The problem here isn't the amount of gold that Joe has amassed, it's the method for which he did so. Just because something is part of a games "code" doesn't make it right to do if it damages the economy and upsets the server as a whole. Duping is in the code. Are we allowed to do it? No. Rolling back games is in the code. Hey let's do that too! The biggest reason why people are upset is due to your (and Joe's) inability to accept blame and apologize for your actions. It's clear that the majority of the server is angry, and you do nothing but dodge and deflect and make excuses.

I did not ban you, you are NOT always right. When did this supposed ban happen? I do believe Discord shows all moderation logs, I will be glad to you show you once again you are wrong if you request it. Why don't YOU tell ME what am I supposed to do to "fix" what you're calling a problem? What would you have me do? If you were in my shoes right now, what should I be doing to fix all of these supposed problems that I am "deflecting"?

By the way, rolling back is not in the code lol, again you are talking about things you know nothing about. Rolling back happens because D2GS saves charfiles at an interval or at certain events, rolling back happens when there is a sudden crash and one of the save triggers do not happen. That is the exact opposite of "in the code". As for duping, there isn't a switch in the actual config that says "allow dupes". That would actually be an exploit, as it is taking advantage of actual events in the code causing an unintended result.

[Bloop]

Oh hey look! Honesty. Imagine that. And you did in fact ban me from discord. The problem here isn't the amount of gold that Joe has amassed, it's the method for which he did so. Just because something is part of a games "code" doesn't make it right to do if it damages the economy and upsets the server as a whole. Duping is in the code. Are we allowed to do it? No. Rolling back games is in the code. Hey let's do that too! The biggest reason why people are upset is due to your (and Joe's) inability to accept blame and apologize for your actions. It's clear that the majority of the server is angry, and you do nothing but dodge and deflect and make excuses.

The problem will be fixed.

I sincerely hope you have a great day

[spdkllz]

What would you have me do? If you were in my shoes right now, what should I be doing to fix all of these supposed problems that I am "deflecting"?


Is there a button that makes getting said annis 15x timer longer in the game as well? Is that part of the code we are referring here?

Honestly, what I would expect is that, when you make something 15x times harder (and in this case it's easily quantifiable since getting same number of old soulstone vs new soulstone requries 1/15 materials and it takes hours to collect 3 sets, so its not 1min vs 15min thing, its much larger scale), I would expect you to block this feature for the transitional season. Just to be 'fair'. Not saying dclone walking and hunting is an exploit, I liked to do just that in Bnet. However, never was it the case that all of a sudden something I spent an hour collecting required me to spent 15 hours, and available for use from previous season for others.

I can only hope, for future, when you make big design changes like these, you take this into consideration the implications. From my personal view, if it took the same effort, it would not have mattered if anyone spent time last ladder or this ladder to achieve the same result. However, if you make it 15x more harder to achieve the SAME thing and still allow old method to be used for SOME people, then it causes unrest. And I think you can see where people are coming from. Most of us love this game, and that's why you are getting a lot of comments on the issue. If nobody cared, then it would be silence.

At the end of the day, it's your server, you can say i dont give a rats ass any day, but that's never a good way to run business, and especially if you want it to grow with new players. Just my 2c, you can add it to the pile of other 2cs, which are in abundance these days.

[Game]

Is there a button that makes getting said annis 15x timer longer in the game as well? Is that part of the code we are referring here?

Honestly, what I would expect is that, when you make something 15x times harder (and in this case it's easily quantifiable since getting same number of old soulstone vs new soulstone requries 1/15 materials and it takes hours to collect 3 sets, so its not 1min vs 15min thing, its much larger scale), I would expect you to block this feature for the transitional season. Just to be 'fair'. Not saying dclone walking and hunting is an exploit, I liked to do just that in Bnet. However, never was it the case that all of a sudden something I spent an hour collecting required me to spent 15 hours, and available for use from previous season for others.

I can only hope, for future, when you make big design changes like these, you take this into consideration the implications. From my personal view, if it took the same effort, it would not have mattered if anyone spent time last ladder or this ladder to achieve the same result. However, if you make it 15x more harder to achieve the SAME thing and still allow old method to be used for SOME people, then it causes unrest. And I think you can see where people are coming from. Most of us love this game, and that's why you are getting a lot of comments on the issue. If nobody cared, then it would be silence.

At the end of the day, it's your server, you can say i dont give a rats ass any day, but that's never a good way to run business, and especially if you want it to grow with new players. Just my 2c, you can add it to the pile of other 2cs, which are in abundance these days.

I highly recommend you search my recent posts and read everything I've said addressing this subject lately. Thanks for your concern.

[sleezy2]

"We are fully dedicated to making this the best Diablo II server to play on by far, and we will focus building it around the most important part, the community"

"2. Scamming / theft / ruining the experience of other players is not allowed.
- Stealing, tricking, and taking advantage of others is completely unacceptable. We want to focus on making our community an enjoyable place, we will not tolerate ruining others experience here."

These quotes have been copied from your homepage. Seems to me that there is a issue with the community. All you keep doing is keep regurgitating the same response. People on here have come to expect fair play on here. You changed the rules on standards, so that it was harder to farm!!!! Why change it, if ypu were going to let prior season exploit it??? Regardless if you think its fair, alot of people you "value" dont. Its good to know where the community stands when you are making money.

[Game]

"We are fully dedicated to making this the best Diablo II server to play on by far, and we will focus building it around the most important part, the community"

"2. Scamming / theft / ruining the experience of other players is not allowed.
- Stealing, tricking, and taking advantage of others is completely unacceptable. We want to focus on making our community an enjoyable place, we will not tolerate ruining others experience here."

These quotes have been copied from your homepage. Seems to me that there is a issue with the community. All you keep doing is keep regurgitating the same response. People on here have come to expect fair play on here. You changed the rules on standards, so that it was harder to farm!!!! Why change it, if ypu were going to let prior season exploit it??? Regardless if you think its fair, alot of people you "value" dont. Its good to know where the community stands when you are making money.

You're really starting to get on my nerves, how about instead of spewing crap, you answer me this. I will ask you the same thing I asked gothix. What are you WANTING me to do? What exactly are you requesting of me right now?

[sleezy2]

You have done all you can in regards to fixing it. The problem is the damge has been done. I just want to play on a server that is fair. I dont know why that is so hard to understand. You really need help with pr, try to understand where people are coming from. all you keep doing is defending your decision. People want to hear something like this wont hapen anymore. Why do you think this has blown up so much? People pay good money to play on here. So if they feel cheated, maybe you should identify with them rather than defending yourself.

[Game]

You have done all you can in regards to fixing it. The problem is the damge has been done. I just want to play on a server that is fair. I dont know why that is so hard to understand. You really need help with pr, try to understand where people are coming from. all you keep doing is defending your decision. People want to hear something like this wont hapen anymore. Why do you think this has blown up so much? People pay good money to play on here. So if they feel cheated, maybe you should identify with them rather than defending yourself.

LOL so you are STILL going about this after the chapter is closed and everything is said and done, but you keep ranting about it so I ask you what you want me to do since you feel the need to rant, and you respond with nothing at all? Move on please. I completely understood how some people are upset because they were not aware they could do the same thing, I feel for them, but you all keep griping about the SAME stuff, I can only maintain composure so long. I can only take so much of people complaining without even wanting anything done, you're literally just complaining to complain. Even responding to this anymore is counter productive. I already said it will be disabled next ladder. I don't want to hear anymore about this.