My list of balancing

[Jared]

cthulhu set items 1:600 maybe a little bit harder with a buff to them would be good especially physical even without them being tougher to find... physical is shit
pbox 1:125
bulwark 1:500
purrys 1:750
kaalut (poison damage should have gfg boost imo) 1:500
acid inject 1:500
sha (this needs to be buffed too an eth sha should be best zeal wep) 1:500
valusia (this needs buff too maybe 65% snake spawn rate +1 skill) 1:500
othu eye 1:750
lich 1:750
knars 1:250
hrs - possibly a tad bit harder
blue organs - imo to fix the sadness of the blue box + make more people want to do them they should be about 25-45x as rare + thicker cows (like prepatch) + hardness / + xp based on how rare they get and not be able to come in org basket ofc and cow set item drop off the queen every time
cons about 2x as hard to find
maelstrom - cut this damage in half...
Turn down pvp damage from 25% to 10%
Tf is op asf all i should have to say
FM should be 15-20 cold aura i believe
all the useless cthulhu items should be buffed...
and last but not least.. make the new items not purple, purple is my color

this prob isnt everything since i havent been around for the new patches if you have more you can post below

[SaintSlavut]

What do your ratios represent? At any rate, I'm a notoriously unlucky guy so lowering drop rates for things makes me sad. Lol

I agree about prepatch ferno cows. That was the good stuff.

And no nerf maelstrom yet damnit I still gotta get a taste of that sweet gg dmg bro

Lastly, I think all items should be purple. Just saying

EDIT: After reading your ladder reset thread, I'm thinking maybe we should lower drop rates. It is a bit ridiculous that players can get all the best gear within a couple weeks.

[Jared]

What do your ratios represent? At any rate, I'm a notoriously unlucky guy so lowering drop rates for things makes me sad. Lol

I agree about prepatch ferno cows. That was the good stuff.

And no nerf maelstrom yet damnit I still gotta get a taste of that sweet gg dmg bro

Lastly, I think all items should be purple. Just saying

the ratios show how much kills on average it takes to get the item so on like othu there would be a 1:600 chance that he drops cthulhu set ring 1:125 that he drops pbox 1:750 he drops lich helm and 1:750 he drops eye making it a 1:82.57 chance that othu drops anything

[SaintSlavut]

That's what I was thinking but wasn't sure. Sounds good to me.

[LordManhammer]

If drop rates are going to be nerfed on dreamland items then they would need to all be buffed to make them worth farming for. The only reason that I bothered to farm that zone repeatedly was for Pboxes. The fact that I found a couple con rings was nice but not much else was of any worth to players as far as trade goes. At least for the players that actually have the currency to trade for the items. Those top tier players have already moved on to farming Crucible items. What the hell do they need a Husk of Kaluut for?

Which brings me to my next point. The drops rates that are being suggested here are coming from a guy who is farming with the absolute best gear in the game and who farms with a group of other top players. Of course he will think that everything is too easy to come by. I think that making changes based on the experiences of a chosen few that sit at the very top of the food chain would be foolish at the very least.

As more and more end game gear is added to the server, the gap created between the average player and the 1337 Haxor players will only increase. This is just what happens. It's not necessarily a bad thing but catering to those elite few because they want the items that they are hoarding to be worth more is only going to ruin the fun factor of this sacred game

[Jared]

If drop rates are going to be nerfed on dreamland items then they would need to all be buffed to make them worth farming for. The only reason that I bothered to farm that zone repeatedly was for Pboxes. The fact that I found a couple con rings was nice but not much else was of any worth to players as far as trade goes. At least for the players that actually have the currency to trade for the items. Those top tier players have already moved on to farming Crucible items. What the hell do they need a Husk of Kaluut for?

Which brings me to my next point. The drops rates that are being suggested here are coming from a guy who is farming with the absolute best gear in the game and who farms with a group of other top players. Of course he will think that everything is too easy to come by. I think that making changes based on the experiences of a chosen few that sit at the very top of the food chain would be foolish at the very least.

As more and more end game gear is added to the server, the gap created between the average player and the 1337 Haxor players will only increase. This is just what happens. It's not necessarily a bad thing but catering to those elite few because they want the items that they are hoarding to be worth more is only going to ruin the fun factor of this sacred game

this is meant to drop on a ladder reset

[vaudeville]

If drop rates are going to be nerfed on dreamland items then they would need to all be buffed to make them worth farming for. The only reason that I bothered to farm that zone repeatedly was for Pboxes. The fact that I found a couple con rings was nice but not much else was of any worth to players as far as trade goes. At least for the players that actually have the currency to trade for the items. Those top tier players have already moved on to farming Crucible items. What the hell do they need a Husk of Kaluut for?

Which brings me to my next point. The drops rates that are being suggested here are coming from a guy who is farming with the absolute best gear in the game and who farms with a group of other top players. Of course he will think that everything is too easy to come by. I think that making changes based on the experiences of a chosen few that sit at the very top of the food chain would be foolish at the very least.

As more and more end game gear is added to the server, the gap created between the average player and the 1337 Haxor players will only increase. This is just what happens. It's not necessarily a bad thing but catering to those elite few because they want the items that they are hoarding to be worth more is only going to ruin the fun factor of this sacred game

This gentleman completely gets it, ladder reset or not. At best, only the elite or rather I should say very lucky seem to be rewarded the most . Everyone else is stuck grinding until either they get help from those that were the luckiest and/or more committed or they're stuck trading whatever lesser things they can scrounge that the elite may need, but would rather not waste their time getting. Otherwise I think you'll have a worse situation than you do now.

On another note, I'm a lot more worried about caches dropped by azathoth than dreamland bosses (unless caches themselves are either very hard to open or have less chances of giving players something they want) since as of now it is better to farm him than it is with dreamland bosses (I've certainly noticed far less people doing dreamland bosses since the last patch).

[LordManhammer]

I understand that. I also remember how quickly you and several other top players had the best gear available in the last reset. I attribute this to your skill with the game and your trading prowess. You pride yourself on being a trading aficionado right? Didn't you have a cow set early on? Being able to farm with that set alone sets you above all of the rest in terms of magic find.

I'm not knocking your skills and I'm certainly no slouch but making items harder to come by only serves to do two things: put new and/or casual players off and give the top players an economic advantage.

[Jared]

I understand that. I also remember how quickly you and several other top players had the best gear available in the last reset. I attribute this to your skill with the game and your trading prowess. You pride yourself on being a trading aficionado right? Didn't you have a cow set early on? Being able to farm with that set alone sets you above all of the rest in terms of magic find.

I'm not knocking your skills and I'm certainly no slouch but making items harder to come by only serves to do two things: put new and/or casual players off and give the top players an economic advantage.

its already gonna be destroyed if rates stay the same and trust me this ladder the whole economy will be unraveled in less then a week all the top players have gold this time around.. i had about 1.5k last lad reset i have 13k now and anya has 100k theres nothing stopping us just make it a little harder with drop rates on these items and make it a lil more fun for the most loyal players

[rrra]

Yeah the only people who would benefit from this are those who have either lots of gold or way too much time on their hands. Unfortunately, I have neither. I agree that caches are barely worth picking up right now. But I think the correct answer is to buff it by adding a divine gem or something on that level to the guaranteed drop instead of nerfing it.