Adding Subscribers and Perks, Patch 5.1 Information

[Bloop]

Setting gold to 0 accomplishes nothing permanent. All it does is delay things slightly. Someone could just donate for 100k gold afterwards and control the economy.

Setting gold to zero will not happen.

I wish I could disagree and pretend that my opinion along with almost everyone elses who has posted here is 100% correct (I think we brought up some pretty valid points still) but honestly youre pretty right. I guess this is just the natural flow of things when you have a p2w element in a game. I personally am ok with p2w because im ok with people being richer than me, I'd just hate to see the community get smaller and everyone suffer which is why I posted my thoughts earlier. If you think about it people can already just buy the things they need if they have the cash and someone is offering the item and the people who play still stick around despite mephisto having his way with the market, so maybe we are all just freaking out about stupid crap instead of just enjoying the game. Plus at the end of the day encouraging gold purchases helps us here alot more than some other game that has millions of players and where your money doesnt necessarily help keep the game on a progressive path.

You will loose part of the community with this Alex, if you ask me you should come up with another way. But hey do it your way.. We had enough of Mephisto having head start in everything. Thats a fact.

Part of me still agrees with this, but realistically none of us are really providing a better way to both A.) increase reliable revenue and B.) solve the underlying problem. We are just providing a bit of insight that will ultimately just delay the inevitable domination of the economy by rich people and potentially piss them off when they are the ones spending alot of money, or encouraging others to spend it, to get to that point.

I hate to have to really go back on my opinion tbh but thats the reality of our situation until someone provides a legitimate fix that alex will accept and impliment.

[RevanDarth]

Why not making it so you can convert gold to platinum, like 10-20 gold makes 1 platinum and vice versa. That way rich boys can choose if they want to keep their 5 figure numbers for hadriel or to be able to trade and have 10-20x less.

[Bloop]

Why not making it so you can convert gold to platinum, like 10-20 gold makes 1 platinum and vice versa. That way rich boys can choose if they want to keep their 5 figure numbers for hadriel or to be able to trade and have 10-20x less.

wouldnt that effectively make it so only people as rich as mephisto would be able to convert their gold to platinum and still be able to buy whatever they want? I personally wouldnt be able to buy anything worthwhile for a very long time :P but then again it WOULD drain their available funds eventually unless they could profit enough to sustain the conversion penalty.

I feel like if anything keeping gold untradable while still implementing the other subscription features would be the best way to go. Even though i would really like to be able to sell items for gold more easily so I can get some gold stockpiled haha. But either way Ill manage and so will you guys.

[Game]

wouldnt that effectively make it so only people as rich as mephisto would be able to convert their gold to platinum and still be able to buy whatever they want? I personally wouldnt be able to buy anything worthwhile for a very long time :P but then again it WOULD drain their available funds eventually unless they could profit enough to sustain the conversion penalty.

I feel like if anything keeping gold untradable while still implementing the other subscription features would be the best way to go. Even though i would really like to be able to sell items for gold more easily so I can get some gold stockpiled haha. But either way Ill manage and so will you guys.

This is the route I am going to go. I grow tired of people feeling like threatening to quit the server is some huge weapon they have over of my head. Obviously I do not want people to quit my server but hearing it as a threat over and over is boring and I am just sick of hearing it. I truly thought doing this would benefit everyone in the long run, but all anyone can see is Mephisto and for some reason just because he literally never spends Gold and is better at the economic game than most seem to be I am automatically giving him massive favoritism somehow, and literally every decision I make about the server is exclusively to make sure Mephisto benefits, if he doesn't gain something from it I absolutely cannot include it in the patch. That is all I think about anytime and everytime I update Annihilus. Because that is obviously the ONLY explanation, it definitely cannot be that they cannot stand the fact he has so much Gold and they don't, even though every single person started with 0 Gold when they began Annihilus, and the same access to EVERYTHING in the game. This cannot be right! Surely Mephisto is cheating or has some sort of secret backing by the higher ups that is me and Acyroma, there is no other reason why he could possibly have more Gold than anyone else!

I am sick to death of these ridiculous accusations, I know I shouldn't let things I know are obviously false get to me, but seeing all of these people (including my own staff of all people) talk about these false accusations as if they are cold hard facts just makes me want to drop the whole thing.

[StenchTrench]

This is the route I am going to go. I grow tired of people feeling like threatening to quit the server is some huge weapon they have over of my head. Obviously I do not want people to quit my server but hearing it as a threat over and over is boring and I am just sick of hearing it. I truly thought doing this would benefit everyone in the long run, but all anyone can see is Mephisto and for some reason just because he literally never spends Gold and is better at the economic game than most seem to be I am automatically giving him massive favoritism somehow, and literally every decision I make about the server is exclusively to make sure Mephisto benefits, if he doesn't gain something from it I absolutely cannot include it in the patch. That is all I think about anytime and everytime I update Annihilus. Because that is obviously the ONLY explanation, it definitely cannot be that they cannot stand the fact he has so much Gold and they don't, even though every single person started with 0 Gold when they began Annihilus, and the same access to EVERYTHING in the game. This cannot be right! Surely Mephisto is cheating or has some sort of secret backing by the higher ups that is me and Acyroma, there is no other reason why he could possibly have more Gold than anyone else!

I am sick to death of these ridiculous accusations, I know I shouldn't let things I know are obviously false get to me, but seeing all of these people (including my own staff of all people) talk about these false accusations as if they are cold hard facts just makes me want to drop the whole thing.

Don't get me wrong here, I love the community and the amazing work you and your team have done on the server. Bloop kind of hit the nail on the head in my opinion. Allowing everyone to start from scratch with subscriber gold that can only be used for forum trades honestly feels like the right thing to do. Keep the in game gold a separate entity from subscriber gold. Give subscribers decent perks that convince them to pay their $15 a month. Make it worthwhile. Also...I'd suggest starting a new poll and allowing us to see who voted yes/no. Anyone can easily make multiple accounts and vote yes. I understand that the idea is to support the server, but what happens when you lose more than half your player base? What's left?

[Game]

Don't get me wrong here, I love the community and the amazing work you and your team have done on the server. Bloop kind of hit the nail on the head in my opinion. Allowing everyone to start from scratch with subscriber gold that can only be used for forum trades honestly feels like the right thing to do. Keep the in game gold a separate entity from subscriber gold. Give subscribers decent perks that convince them to pay their $15 a month. Make it worthwhile. Also...I'd suggest starting a new poll and allowing us to see who voted yes/no. Anyone can easily make multiple accounts and vote yes. I understand that the idea is to support the server, but what happens when you lose more than half your player base? What's left?

I no longer have interest in carrying on this subject, I will not make another thread. Ah there it is again, the threat everyone will quit if I don't do exactly what they say, democracy at its finest.