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    Not to mention that for high level items, people are asking only for gold. Even for items that can be farmed with basic set items. I understand that the server needs to make money, but really? I enjoy this server, and would love to keep on playing. But the market is fucked by not allowing people to transfer gold they earned from voting to make purchases. Spending cash for even basic items = People like me never being able to use the end-game content that brought me here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brimstonejack View Post
    Not to mention that for high level items, people are asking only for gold. Even for items that can be farmed with basic set items. I understand that the server needs to make money, but really? I enjoy this server, and would love to keep on playing. But the market is fucked by not allowing people to transfer gold they earned from voting to make purchases. Spending cash for even basic items = People like me never being able to use the end-game content that brought me here.
    How do you propose we prevent people from masking all sorts of hidden accounts and voting everyday, and moving the Gold to 1 account and quickly buying things? The market would instantly die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Game View Post
    How do you propose we prevent people from masking all sorts of hidden accounts and voting everyday, and moving the Gold to 1 account and quickly buying things? The market would instantly die.
    What's to stop them from voting on every account and trading for Hadriel items, as is currently a fairly common practice? (Trading for Hadriel items, not multiaccounts)

    And you could also limit accounts to 1 per IP on the website. Are there ways around this? Sure. But permanently banning accounts for transferring gold to the same IP is a start. There's gotta be a way we do this legitimately. I don't mind the idea of buying gold. But I think more people are likely to splurge every once in a while on a gold reserve they can freely trade than they are to buy gold every time they want to buy an item. But maybe it's my own anti-microtransaction rage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brimstonejack View Post
    What's to stop them from voting on every account and trading for Hadriel items, as is currently a fairly common practice? (Trading for Hadriel items, not multiaccounts)

    And you could also limit accounts to 1 per IP on the website. Are there ways around this? Sure. But permanently banning accounts for transferring gold to the same IP is a start. There's gotta be a way we do this legitimately. I don't mind the idea of buying gold. But I think more people are likely to splurge every once in a while on a gold reserve they can freely trade than they are to buy gold every time they want to buy an item. But maybe it's my own anti-microtransaction rage.
    The total difference is, when Gold starts to accumulate on the same account it's a lot easier to spot. If they are instantly moving the 60-120 Gold often it's much harder to see, and is way less obvious. We don't have the manpower to actively monitor this. It is just WAY too easy to hide IP addresses nowadays, it is completely unreliable method

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brimstonejack View Post
    Not to mention that for high level items, people are asking only for gold. Even for items that can be farmed with basic set items. I understand that the server needs to make money, but really? I enjoy this server, and would love to keep on playing. But the market is fucked by not allowing people to transfer gold they earned from voting to make purchases. Spending cash for even basic items = People like me never being able to use the end-game content that brought me here.
    Bad idea is bad.

    If someone wants 11k gold for Sanctuary's Balance that's up to them, but they're receiving that gold based on the items in Hadriel and odds are nobody with 11k gold would give it for something you can get from a boss.

    Spending cash for basic items? What items are you even talking about?

    Gold has almost nothing to do with why the High Rune market is going downhill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Addah View Post
    Bad idea is bad.

    If someone wants 11k gold for Sanctuary's Balance that's up to them, but they're receiving that gold based on the items in Hadriel and odds are nobody with 11k gold would give it for something you can get from a boss.

    Spending cash for basic items? What items are you even talking about?

    Gold has almost nothing to do with why the High Rune market is going downhill.
    Bad idea is bad? Useless cliche is useless.

    Gold has nothing to do with rune market? Then why do you think they remove runes from Hadriel at the beginning of ladder resets?

    Which basic items? Just go look at the Trading forums.

    Trash post is trash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brimstonejack View Post
    Bad idea is bad? Useless cliche is useless.

    Gold has nothing to do with rune market? Then why do you think they remove runes from Hadriel at the beginning of ladder resets?

    Which basic items? Just go look at the Trading forums.

    Trash post is trash.
    Because that 1 example is literally the only situation where people would pay gold for runes, and we're talking about the other 99.9% of the time not just a short time after ladder reset.

    Your example is bad because you make it sound like you can't earn any items or buy anything because it's all too expensive.

    Transfering gold is not a big enough issue to single handedly bring down the market in the way we're discussing.

    You can already trade the items you buy with gold, what your idea does is lets people farm votes and cheat the system, requiring an Admin to monitor it 24/7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Addah View Post
    Because that 1 example is literally the only situation where people would pay gold for runes, and we're talking about the other 99.9% of the time not just a short time after ladder reset.

    Your example is bad because you make it sound like you can't earn any items or buy anything because it's all too expensive.

    Transfering gold is not a big enough issue to single handedly bring down the market in the way we're discussing.

    You can already trade the items you buy with gold, what your idea does is lets people farm votes and cheat the system, requiring an Admin to monitor it 24/7.
    So, what you're basically saying is that because YOU don't have a solution to the problem, nobody else should look for one? Fuck outta my face with that bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brimstonejack View Post
    So, what you're basically saying is that because YOU don't have a solution to the problem, nobody else should look for one? Fuck outta my face with that bullshit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Addah View Post
    I agree the high rune market could be better, and there's many reasons for why players behave this way.

    1) Drop rates are "fairly" high, but there's a lot of rich people who log 50 mules to farm, so Computer performance profits farming, and them getting high runes so easily changes the market

    2) Most Runeword items are not used because players skip straight to Sets for more bonuses/damage, so there is no system in place to consume "lower" high level runes

    3) Pul+ runes only require 2 to upgrade and no gems, which can make the trading market for Um-Sur worse, even though it's easier to upgrade high runes, this is not a problem on Battle.net because it has much lower rates and gems have value there

    The only solutions I can think of would be putting a limit on drop rate increases after 20 players in a game, slightly boost Runewords that nobody is using, make Set items (M'avina, Aldur, Immortal, etc) harder to obtain since they are being treated as "starter items", and make runes below Pul only require 2 to upgrade to help low level players with farming since rich people don't pickup runes below Mal.
    Look before you leap, how's that for a cliche?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Addah View Post
    Look before you leap, how's that for a cliche?
    Ah, so when you have bad ideas, they're solutions. But when someone else makes a suggestion, you respond with cliches? Yeah, I'll just be ignoring everything your dumb, obtuse ass has to say from this point on.

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